nhprman
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Quote: Originally Posted by TSimmonsQuote: Originally Posted by nhprman
The Free Stater agenda (at least SOME of the more extreme among them, I'll stipulate) is far from the traditional, mainstream Republican agenda -and no, I don't mean the free spending liberal Republican RINOS, so don't even go there.
Republicans rarely believe in swarming states or towns to "take them over" and impose a lawless Randite paradise on the rest of us.
For the record, free staters have infiltrated both parties.
And how have you come to these conclusions about who the freestaters are and what their agenda is? How many freestaters have you actually spoken to about why they moved here or what they are doing now that they are here? Or do you just take the views of a few of the more fringe freestaters as gospel? If that's the case, then we as NH Republicans should be following the rantings of Robert Haines - after all, he's a Republican. And what does it take to "infiltrate" a party? Does that mean participation? Does that mean registering as a member of the party? I have learned over the years to not presume to know what anyone's agenda is without really getting to know more about them. To jump on board any anti-this or anti-that crusade is simply foolish. Using words like infiltrate, agenda, swarming, etc. make you sound far more paranoid than you think. IMO, this sign pick up had nothing to do with Romney - that just happened to be whose signs were there when the video was made.
And yes, I've met several of them. Several who have ranted on and on about bizarre conspiracy theories and frankly seem paranoid about everyone, including Republicans, and several seem intent on pushing liberal social values, underpinned by a narcissistic philosophy, onto this state. I'm HOPING that they are a minority.
And no, I don't support the rantings of Robert Haines. Or the liberal rantings of John McCain, for that matter.
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To dispute NHPRMAN's false accusations about Free Staters and their obsessive in coming here, NH was recognized as the state with the greatest Liberty and the ability to keep it that way. That is why they picked NH.
I'm no Free-Stater, so I have no reason to defend them, other than to provide truth to paranoid accusations. NHPRMAN hates Libertarians, and views all Free Staters as Libertarian anarchists here to overthrow the government, which he views as Pro-Republican Principled. With the Dems taking control last year, the Free-staters were handed a serious blow to their beliefs that NH is for Liberty.
I hate anarchists. Pure and simple. If a free stater stands for a conservative society in which there's maximum freedom, with a strong foundation of laws to protect individual rights, then I stand with them in common cause.
I do agree with you 100% that the Dem's "nanny state" has changed our state's commitment to maximum freedom for the individual. I think the voters will change that in November, IF we present a reasoned, intelligent alternative.
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Alienating the largest body of voters, as you continue to do, the Independents, is not going to restore decency to Concord.
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Alienating the largest body of voters, as you continue to do, the Independents, is not going to restore decency to Concord.
No one is alienating ALL indies here. Give me a break. Your hyperbole is getting old.
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Your constant claim that only Republicans voting for Republicans as valid is alienation
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Your constant claim that only Republicans voting for Republicans as valid is alienation
I never said that. Stop fibbing.
In principle, I think only party members should be voting in their own party's primaries (and, as I've said ad infinitum, I believe minor parties should have the right to exist and field their own candidates in their own primaries) but the reality is that most people want the system the way it is - i.e. banning smaller parties and having open primaries.
In that case, obviously my party wants all the Undeclareds we can get, and hopefully, they all share our values, and aren't joining to turn the GOP into the party of social and/or economic liberals.
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You deny it, then state it is how it should be exactly as I meant.
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Quote: Originally Posted by nhprman
Just because you used the words "horse pucky" ... and it made me laugh... I'll concede the point and let this dead horse about the sign clean-up die a well-deserved death after the beating it's taken.
Thanks. After further 'investigation' on this person, shall we say, I can say with some certainty that I think this woman does NOT even vote, and was merely 'cleaning' the highway since FSPers are known to do voluntary random acts of helpfulness like this.
Also you are right about McCain - he's a liberal scourge.
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I love that neither of you(dave or nhprman) will openly question the 911 attacks. Listen to the letter that charlie sheane wrote to the president. It is a youtube.com video and republished in the free stater paper out of keene. 911 was an inside job...i know the fake spin dave(the paid fed agent) will put on it but what about you nhprman? How do you turn a blind eye to your friends being dead? I am sorry. I have two humans that I knew growing up who are dead, because people like you have a hard time with the big lies. Just like the famous nazi once said "the bigger the lie the harder to see". I just ask you to look in the mirror and think about it. Right before you go to sleep think is my misdirection right? I don't know how old you are. If you are older this my sit better: Should people know who killed Kennedy? If i could tell you, would you want to know? I dont think you do. Ignorance is a strong shield. You and dave wear it well.
for all others
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyKR2-A0KPU
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