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The final straw in my case was hearing that the alleged victim would not testify against me, which is why they kept continuing the case, and kept my lawyer thinking they would drop it. When I found out they had put her in a foster home and threatened her with YDC, if she did not cooperate, I had no problem taking the deal to protect her.
The sad part here is that the true molester, her own father, got away with this, despite evidence we presented to the Prosecutor.
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Not an attack on you Howie, but I would never take a plea for something I knew to be false. Maybe it's just who I am. |
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So you would rather spend time in prison fighting to get justice than be free, that is what you are saying, right? I am willing to bet that if you were in my shoes back then (up to 35 years hard time versus two years probation I knew I could do easily), you would have done the same.
If I had known some loony legislators could later add to my sentence, break the deal the Court made with me, I would not have taken the deal. This taught me to never trust the system again, and to recognize Feel-Good BS legislation from true legislation and efforts to protect the kids.
The legislators want you to believe that by posting names and pictures on a site your kids are safe - that is BS. If this worked there would be less and less sexual molestatons on kids, but the facts show that it is becoming more prevelant, and mostly by people who are not on the list already. Look how many teachers in recent years have been found to be doing this, and yet until recent years, such allegations agaisnt teachers were dismissed off hand as just wild accusations by unruly or angry students.
Teach kids and parents the signs to watch out for, don't give them this BS false sense of security that Police know all those who would do something like this. Dear old Uncle Ernie, or a teacher, is more apt to molest your child than the anybody on the website.
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Quote: Originally Posted by SaveNH
So you would rather spend time in prison fighting to get justice than be free, that is what you are saying, right? I am willing to bet that if you were in my shoes back then (up to 35 years hard time versus two years probation I knew I could do easily), you would have done the same.
I'm saying I would never admit to being a child molester ever no matter what the circumstance. I'm not attacking you or saying you were wrong to do so. I am stating a FACT. I would never plea out of something I didn't do.
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Quote: Teach kids and parents the signs to watch out for, don't give them this BS false sense of security that Police know all those who would do something like this. Dear old Uncle Ernie, or a teacher, is more apt to molest your child than the anybody on the website.
That is so true. When my daughter was 11 she was raped by a 40 year old convicted child molester who lived next door to our babysitter. None of us had any idea he was a molester.
The man had molested his niece and nephew, spent time in Bridgewater, got released, and molested who knows how many bedsides my daughter. Got released from prison after his 10 year sentence and then molested two more kids. He is now serving a 20-to life sentence in Concord State Prison.
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Quote: Originally Posted by ShaneMcGowen Quote: Originally Posted by SaveNH
So you would rather spend time in prison fighting to get justice than be free, that is what you are saying, right? I am willing to bet that if you were in my shoes back then (up to 35 years hard time versus two years probation I knew I could do easily), you would have done the same.
I'm saying I would never admit to being a child molester ever no matter what the circumstance. I'm not attacking you or saying you were wrong to do so. I am stating a FACT. I would never plea out of something I didn't do.
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But let's not make this about me anymore, let's work to protect kids. To me the greatest crime in this all is those who look the other way and let kids get molested.
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Quote: Originally Posted by SaveNHBut let's not make this about me anymore, let's work to protect kids. To me the greatest crime in this all is those who look the other way and let kids get molested.
For once you're right about something. Maybe turning to a new chapter in your life?? You finally want to stop arguing and actually get something done??? This is great.
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Shane, not a new chapter for me, you and others are finally seeing what I have been trying to do and say for years. If you go back to the old threads that were cut off you would see I tried to do this before. Instead of arguing with me, instead of trying to demean me, maybe people should ask questions, listen and learn.
One of the saddest chapters in my whole life was during my probation when I had to go through group counseling with some real sickos. This Psychology worker running the group kept on my buns to admit my guilt, telling me I won't get better till I do. Meanwhile I'm sitting there with a girls soccer coach who molested five 12 year old girls, a guy who raped like five or six boys under 10, a guy who raped his own daughter, produced a son from that, and then raped the young son. And there were four or five othrs similar. I'm like flipping out being near these creeps, and the only way I could keep my sanity was to try and figure out what motivated them to do such horrible things. Listening to some of their stories I learned how they got access to the kids - it was trust by parents in BS or denial - and it scared me.
Every time somebody with a previous sexual conviction or claim in their background is arrested, the public goes crazy like "How could these guys be out there?" - well, all I can say is if parents think it is only the ones who are on the list they need to worry about, then their kids are in danger. You never see the statistics of how many new sexual offenses are committed every year by people never caught before, but let one repeat offender get caught and the world screams for blood. At what point should we hold parents and others to blame for what happens to these kids that allowed access to first time never caught offenders? (I say it that way because many never get caught, are never reported, or have molested many before they are ever caught). To me it is unimaginable that nobody saw the danger.
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Yes Robby, I'm finally seeing the light. No even when someone agrees with you, you are a condesending little man. Only thing I agree with it that the kids need to be protected. Not anything else that has ever spewed out of your mouth. You never see the real story its some imaginary world you live in. Kids do need to be protected though. If anyone molested anyone in my family they wouldn't be long for this earth. |
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Nor mine!
I find it amazing that you approach things with blinders on. I'm trying to educate you, not dump on you. I even overlooked your slight in distorting my name, something I never would answer to. In fact, when you gave your somewhat agreement, because you used that improper name, it took me a while to realize you were directing the comment at me.
I guess it is a waste of my time to talk reality with you - I tried, but you constantly resort to childish insults. Enough is enough. As we used to say in the sixties, "If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem!" - I'm sure now where you stand.
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Then we can agree on that Howie and I'm happy to hear that from you. I'm not disagreeing on this topic. Give me a solution or something I can do to help that you know of and I am on board. |
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First, stop believing and preaching that somehow the website protects kids, or even a majority of them. The majority of molested kids are by those whose faces you will not see there.
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Once again I agree and you attack. Where did I preach?? I never said anything about the website. You show me a quote about it from me and then Ill say you're right. Maybe others did and you're saying it as a group thing but I never did so start reading posts and posters first. |
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Relax - I did not accuse you of ever saying that, just did not know where you stood on the issue.
I have to run out for most of the day (in and out), but if you really care about kids, as I do, then I will prepare a list of things to watch out for, and gladly post it. Some it will be speculation on my part, based on my own fears of what people may think when they see me around kids, and judge me solely by what others have said, not what they know about me personally. But the majoirty wll be from what I learned in those disturbing group sessions, and my observations since then. Not saying I have all the answers, but a better awareness of the situations that can lead to such abuse than most.
I think we should start another thread though.
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howie, did the alleged victim in your case live in your household at the times of the alleged incidents? |
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No, she lived across the town we lived in, but went to school with my son, and her best friend lived a few hundred yards away. All the kids hung out at my house, with my son's friends and the bands who practiced there.
She had a habit of running away to Mancheser at least once a month, telling her folks she was staying at her friends house down the street from me. That friend is the one who later made the false allegations agaisnt me, and who now lives here in Manchester, worked for me at the Empire Tehater, and is a tenant of the same landlord I have. Her busband and I have done maintenance for the landlord for the past few years on the side. We are on very friendly terms.
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